I can not wait to see this video ;-)

The link seems to be wrong Michael

You need to use full URLs when linking to the demos, since the relative URLs break when browsing the indiviual posts instead of the front page.

Hi Mike, I have always been the command line phreak, but after seeing your nice demos, I gotta admit they are cool. Especially the drag and drop demo (I think it was the last one, I saw the whole thing from start to end). Keep up the good work ! I wish I can show something like that for my file system project :-)

Cheers, Pradeep

Hi,

Well compilation speed was propably not the only reason, but at least it’s an aspect that’s rarly considered when people flame about toolkits ;)

BTW. Your Timeline rocks

-Richard

PS.: when you relatively link in wordpress like you did above: “wp-content/demo_3.png” it won’t work when you have clicked on the article to view the comments. It works on the frontpage, though. I recommend absolute linking: “/wp-content/demo_3.png”

woow so cool, keep up the good work

The link for swf is working only from the main page.

I’m sorry for the bad links. It should be ok now.

Nice work. I love this project. Simple, neat, clean. Keep up with the good work, you are part of the “third” group :)

Once again buddy, I’m quite impressed. Keep it up! I have a bunch of videos of a concert I was involved in a few months back, and I need something to do some editing in ;-)

I wrote news about DIVA on http://linux.pl site (in polish). Good job. Thanks.

Re: “Well, at least we agree that all current Linux video-editing solutions do suck ;)” I think I can safely say that the other developers who have been working hard on their video editing projects do not appreciate such comments, but you are free to make them. Probably somtime in the future someone else will say the same thing, and now your project will be included :-). Good luck making something as reliiable and useful as Kino or as powerful as Cinelerra. I do not work on my project for the competition or to show off to others; I take my time. I am interested to see how well gstreamer and Mono works for this category of application.

Very very well done. I hope you keep up the good work. This is not only a great beginning to a great app, but this is very important for Linux in general. I think Linux users had the idea that the only thing preventing wider Linux desktop adoption was the lack of a good office suite. That’s been (partially) taken care of, but there’s still something missing for widespread consumer adoption – an “iLife” suite. This and other apps like F-spot are great beginnings to a Linux iLife suite.

So, again, keep up the good work – it’s very important. I can’t wait to give a beta a try.

Hi

Could you provide an alternative format for the videos? I’d like to see that it looks cool too :-)

Cheers

Dan, I’m not trying to discard people’s work here. I’m against ideas (software), not against people. There’s a difference.

As a developer I appreciate all the work that was put into KINO. I can only imagine how much effort on my side will be required to bring DIVA to the KINO’s level of usability. I’m also aware that you were the pioneers in this subject and I realize that the range of tools/video libs/backends available now makes the job much easier.

But I’m also a user that wants to do video editing on Linux. And as a user I say - It all SUCKS. We’re light years behind the tools available in the proprietary world, you know that. And since we’re not THAT far behind in other areas (office, Internet, image editing…) something needs to be done. And I’ve seen KINO for the first time in the Red Hat 7 days. Since that time not so much changed in your camp.

All the open-source is somehow based on the “I can do it better” approach, and a bit of healthy competition is necessary. I think that “this software sucks, mine will not suck” is in the boundaries of a healthy competition. From time to time it is necessary to wipe the table clean and do a revolution (or at least - try doing it)

And please - I’m not “showing off to others” here. This is not even my homepage. The recent attention this project has just proves the point that people need more in video editing. So - go ahead and release a better version of KINO.

And regarding Cinelerra - it’s not powerful. I’m sorry, It’s not even close to being professional. It’s a Go Kart with a rocket engine. Won’t drive you anywhere.

@Piem

I’m actually looking myself for alternate ways of recording desktop demos. I used vnc2swf to record the previous demos. It has certain problems.

I’d prefer to be able somehow to record my X desktop (from a different machine) directly into a DivX/xviD file. I tried xvidcap but it doesn’t really work.

Michael,

First off, let me say hats off. As a working professional editor doing commercials using an Avid|DS (http://www.avid.com/ -one of those proprietary tools) and also having worked actually worked at Avid for 4 years of my life I am astounded by the drag-and-drop and start to something that will be impressive. Please don’t stop development. I’m only dissapointed that I can’t download it and play around.

So, I will wait, but please continue working on it. If you need any suggestions from a guy who cuts all day long and would like to think he knows a thing or two about the quickest way to cut - please do.

And good coding :-)

@Dan Dennedy Just for the record, this is how I formulated my opinion, that mdk referred to. :)

“There are already plenty of Video Editors available, both non-free and open-source powered, however while there are very powerful ones like cinelerra, those are also quite complicated to operate.

There are others that focus on easy usage, but most of them available to the free-software community are nowhere near mature or stable.”

-Richard

PS.: It’s hopefully a more polite way of saying: it sucks ;)

@Michael Hale

I’m aware what AVID is, just read DIVA backwards ;) I actually worked on some AVID’s, I’m a movie directing student.

I’m VERY interested in your feedback, there are a lot of “theoretical” UI issues I’d like to discuss before implementing. Even though DIVA is aimed at the “home” user (like iMovie) I’m sure that video editing professionals know best what an “avarage” user needs.

Since there are some other video cutters here that shown interest, I’m going to setup a mailing list specifically to discuss the best UI for the task. I’d like to hear your comments on certain ideas, and perhaps you’ve got better ideas than mine.

Let me know, if you’re interested.

“…this famous quote comes from Casablanca … I’m ready to buy a big beer to anybody who gives me a clue what does it literally mean.”

It’s a compliment to Ilsa’s good looks (Ingrid Bergman’s character). When Rick says, “Here’s looking at you, kid,” it is a contraction of, “Here’s *to* looking at you, kid.” It’s supposed to be a toast (in the “I-drink-this-in-honor-of” sense, not the hot, crispy bread sense :-).

@Michael Dominic K.: Hi,

I just created a web-forum at my sourceforge web-space, if you want to, we can discuss such issues there, I can setup a dedicated section for DIVA. Although I prefer mailinglists too, a web-forum might be a good Idea, because it might be more attractive to casual users, who knows?

What do you think?

Dave, I owe you a beer. Let me know if you ever happen to be somewhere close to Warsaw ;) Since everybody knows that polish girls are the most attractive in Europe, we’ll surely have a good reason to make a toast or two.

I was blinded by the different contexts in which Bogart uses that. For example in the last scene:

 Rick:Ilsa, I’m no good at being noble. But it doesn’t take much to 
 see|that the problems of three little people don’t amount to a hill of 
 beans|in this crazy world. Someday you’ll understand that… Here’s 
 looking at you, kid.

But it makes sense. I thought there’s a kind of secret meaning in that. But we always tend to overestimate things we don’t understand.